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		<title>Gossip?  Is It Really?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read a blog post last week that really touched me. Under His Construction wrote about talking to others about our children – “venting” about the struggles of our children to others. I had the opportunity to present the devotion at co-op this week and the Lord very clearly put this topic on my mind. [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: black;">I read a blog post last week that really touched me. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><a href="http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/ClagettsFLStyle/462595/?#c918310">Under His Construction</a> wrote about talking to others about our children – “venting” about the struggles of our children to others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I had the opportunity to present the devotion at co-op this week and the Lord very clearly put this topic on my mind.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Here are notes from the devotion.</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Leviticus 19:16</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Do not go about spreading slander among your people.<br />
Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor&#8217;s life. I am the LORD.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Proverbs 11:13</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy man keeps a secret.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Proverbs 20:19</span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid a man who talks too much.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">1 Timothy 3:11</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Likewise, <em>their</em> wives <em>must be</em> reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Proverbs 16:28</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">A perverse man sows strife, and a whisperer separates the best of friends. <strong><span style="color: black;"></span></strong></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Proverbs 17:9</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">He who covers a transgression seeks love, but he who repeats a matter separates friends.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Proverbs 18:8</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to a man&#8217;s inmost parts.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Proverbs 26:20 </span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip a quarrel dies down.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Leviticus 19:16</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Thou shall not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people:<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><strong><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">2 Thessalonians 3:11</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies.<span style="color: black;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">We are clearly warned against gossip/slander/talebearing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Usually, we tend to think about this in terms of talking about friends or acquaintances.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>We might even consider that we shouldn’t speak about our husbands poorly.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>But, how often do we put this in terms of speaking about our own children?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">2)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">How many times have we found ourselves “venting” about our children to others?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>How many times have we “asked advice” about a particular problem with our child to anyone who will listen?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>How many times have we told a tale about them in front of others, only to see their mortified face afterward?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>How many times have we been so frustrated that we let spill out our frustrations on the phone to a friend, only to have them listening in the other room?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">3)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">I truly believe there’s a difference in asking advice from a “mentor” about an issue with a child and just openly complaining about the child.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>I believe there needs to be one or two close friends or “older women” that you can go to when you need godly counsel.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>But beyond those couple of people, spilling our child’s struggles to anyone who will listen can only be classified in my mind as gossip about our children.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Even still, I believe what we share with close friends or mentors needs to be guarded carefully.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Carefully in the way that we are really seeking counsel and not just venting, and careful in the way that we don’t speak about our children so that they can hear us. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">When thinking about close friends or mentors, I feel like it’s very important to really know the person with whom we’re talking.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Will they possibly continue the gossip?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Will they give us godly advice and not just help us to continue the cycle of complaining?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">5)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">What we expect from our children is most often what our children live up to.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Our expectations are not always spoken to them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Unspoken expectations are read from things like our attitudes, facial expressions and what they overhear us saying about them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>When we talk about them to others, what they hear from our mouths becomes a form of the “expectation” they relate to themselves.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Even if they don’t hear us talking about them, children most often know that we have been.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Don’t be fooled into thinking that they don’t know what we’ve said – even little bitty ones. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">6)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">And what happens when they overhear us talking about them?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Besides the expectation they start to internalize, what else happens?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Bitterness, anger, dejection, hurt feelings, thoughts that they can’t possibly be good enough, thoughts that they are causing all the strife in our houses, withdrawl, sibling rivalry….????</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore">7)<span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">Go back and reread 2 Thess 3:11.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>When we talk, talk, talk – even in the name of “I’m getting advice from a mentor” often gets us nowhere.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Actually getting to work on the “issues” we have with our children is what will really make a difference.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list .5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "><span style="mso-list: Ignore"> <img src='http://ourjourneywestward.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> <span style="FONT: 7pt "> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">So, what to do?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Practice building our children up to others.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Not only will it reap positive results if our children overhear us, but it’s likely to paint a better picture in our own minds of our children.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The problems may no longer seem so bad.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Ken Ham always says how you see things depends on the glasses you’re wearing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>This holds true with our children as well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Looking at them from dark and negative glasses will hide all their wonderful qualities and keep us focused on the bad that needs to be fixed.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Putting on positive glasses will help us to focus on their good qualities, in turn, the bad qualities are likely to be pushed out as the good qualities keep growing. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: ">May you be blessed as you strive to uplift your children and train them to wholeheartedly follow their God and Savior.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>May we always be mindful of the nudging and teaching of our Lord as He shows us the way in His Word. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></span></p>
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